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|Box title = "Young" Neil Nordegraf
 
|Box title = "Young" Neil Nordegraf
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|image = Image:young_neil.png
 
|imagewidth = 250
 
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|caption = Neil (Volume 4)
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|Row 1 title = Age
 
|Row 1 title = Age
|Row 1 info = 20 (21 in Volume 6)<ref>http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/tagged/ask/page/24</ref>
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|Row 1 info = 20 (21 in Volume 6)<ref name="birthday">http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/post/20013235625/birthdays-in-scott-pilgrim-wow-this-is-pretty#notes</ref>
 
|Row 2 title = Occupation
 
|Row 2 title = Occupation
 
|Row 2 info = *Student (book)
 
|Row 2 info = *Student (book)
*Current bassist of the [[Sex Bob-omb]] (movie)
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*Current bassist of [[Sex Bob-omb]] (movie)
 
|Row 3 title = Family
 
|Row 3 title = Family
 
|Row 3 info = [[Steph Nordegraf]] (sister)
 
|Row 3 info = [[Steph Nordegraf]] (sister)
 
|Row 4 title = Relationship
 
|Row 4 title = Relationship
|Row 4 info = Formerly with [[Knives Chau]]}}
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|Row 4 info = Formerly with [[Knives Chau]]|Row 5 title = Fun Fact|Row 5 info = He Just lives somewhere}}
'''"Young" Neil Nordegraf''' is [[Sex Bob-omb]]'s biggest fan, next to [[Knives Chau]]. He is [[Stephen Stills]]' 20-year-old roommate and briefly dates [[Knives Chau]] (from [[Scott Pilgrim & the Infinite Sadness|volume 3]] to [[Scott Pilgrim Gets It Together|volume 4]]). He is very quiet and is most often seen just observing the dialogue of his friends and the events around him. While generally easy-going, during Sex Bob-omb's extended recording in ''[[Scott Pilgrim vs. the Universe]]'' he becomes angry at how isolated he has become from his friends and later becomes bitter and sullen, taking up smoking. His sister, [[Steph Nordegraf]], played bongos and the viola in Scott's old band, [[Kid Chameleon]]He says in the movie that he met the members of Sex Bob-Omb in high school, but according to [[Bryan Lee O'Malley]], the backstory behind Neil's and Stephen's roommateship involved Stephanie being the former roommate of Stephen Stills and later moving to another town for continued education, with Stephanie's younger brother Neil becoming Stephen's new roommate.<ref>http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/post/29148618283/bryan-lee-omalley-q-a-for-august-10-2012</ref> Stephen's and Neil's relationship seems to work out initially, but Stephen Stills gets angry at Young Neil when he starts dating Knives Chau (even suggesting the rest of them take him out back and beat him up) and it is unknown whether they stayed roommates following the ending of the series.
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'''"Young" Neil Nordegraf''' is referred to for the first time in [[Scott Pilgrim's Finest Hour|Volume 6]], as Neil, when Scott introduces Neil to [[Stacey Pilgrim]] (they did not know each other before, despite the fact that both of them aided Scott in his battle with [[Matthew Patel]] and they were also both at [[Lisa Miller]]'s farewell party)It is the greatest day of his life. It is implied that Neil negatively acquainted the moniker "young". It also can be viewed as the end of his dickish attitude, referenced in [[Volume 5]], "I'm young, I'll grow out of it" when called an asshole by Ramona
   
Young Neil's name is a tribute to Neil Young, a well known Canadian singer-songwriter, musician and film director (and occasional band mate of the real Stephen Stills). Interestingly, Neil Young was born in [[Toronto]], which is where the Scott Pilgrim story is set.
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He is [[Stephen Stills]]' twenty-year-old roommate and briefly dates [[Knives Chau]] (from [[Scott Pilgrim & the Infinite Sadness|volume 3]] to [[Scott Pilgrim Gets It Together|volume 4]]). He has a sister, [[Steph Nordegraf]], who played bongos and the viola in Scott's old band, [[Kid Chameleon]].
   
He dates Knives briefly, but she admits she's really only dating him because he looks like Scott. Neil seems more interested in her than she is, as he expresses desire to make out with her at one point while Knives is indifferent. Though Knives appears to appreciate his support when she was hurt by [[Envy Adams]] and says "I'll be fine, Neil's here". It is implied by Knives that they broke up twice. Neil also seems to like Chinese girls since when he first heard that Scott was dating a Chinese girl, he commented "That's wicked!" and is seen in the company of another Asian girl after his break-up with Knives. Following the end of [[Scott]]'s relationship with [[Ramona]], Neil attends the same party as Scott and when Scott learns Envy Adams is there, Neil suggests that Scott should "preemptively be a dick to her". This is, however, a brutal failure, and Neil abashedly witnesses the result.
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== Personality and traits ==
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He is very quiet and is most often seen just observing the dialogue of his friends and the events around him. While generally easy-going, during Sex Bob-omb's extended recording in ''[[Scott Pilgrim vs. the Universe]]'' he becomes angry at how isolated he has become from his friends and later becomes bitter and sullen, taking up smoking.  
   
In [[Scott Pilgrim's Finest Hour|Volume 6]], "Young Neil" is referred to for the first time in the series as Neil, when Scott introduces Neil to [[Stacey Pilgrim]] (they did not know each other before, despite the fact that both of them aided Scott in his battle with [[Matthew Patel]] and they were also both at [[Lisa Miller]]'s farewell party). It is the greatest day of his life. It is implied that Neil negatively acquainted the moniker "young". It also can be viewed as the end of his dick-like attitude, referenced in Volume 5, "I'm young, I'll grow out of it" when called an asshole by Ramona.
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== Relationships ==
   
He seems to take great pride in the fact that he's the Sex Bob-omb's number 1 fan, as when Kim said Knives was their number 1 fan (in Book 1), Neil quickly stands up, whimpers and tears up, and runs off crying, to which Kim yells "Other than you, Neil!"
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=== Knives Chau ===
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Knives admitted to Neil she was really only dating him because he looked like Scott. Neil seems more interested in her than she is, as he expressed the desire to make out with her at one point while Knives was indifferent. Though Knives appeared to appreciate his support when she was hurt by [[Envy Adams]] and said: "I'll be fine, Neil's here." It is implied by Knives that they broke up twice. Neil also seems to like Chinese girls since when he first heard that Scott was dating a Chinese girl, he commented "That's wicked!" and is seen in the company of another Asian girl after his break-up with Knives. After the end of [[Scott]]'s relationship with [[Ramona]], Neil attends the same party as Scott and when Scott learns Envy Adams is there, Neil suggests that Scott should "preemptively be a dick to her". This is, however, a brutal failure, and Neil abashedly witnesses the result.
   
Young Neil's clothing style is similar to Scott's, as he is often wearing T-shirts with references on them such as the names of different bands. He also seems to share Scott's interest in games; He regularly plays a Nintendo DS and in Volume 6 Scott has just bought a console from him which Scott seems very impressed with. He also plays the arcade game "Time Critics" at Chaos Theatre.
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=== Stephen Stills ===
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Stephen's and Neil's relationship seems to work out initially, but Stephen Stills gets angry at Young Neil when he starts dating Knives Chau (even suggesting the rest of them take him out back and beat him up) and it is unknown whether they stayed roommates following the ending of the series.
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== Sex Bob-Omb's #1 Fan ==
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It is shown that he takes great pride in being Sex Bob-omb's number 1 fan in book one.
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Kim said Knives was their number 1 fan. Neil quickly stands up, whimpers, tears up and runs off crying. To which Kim yells "Other than you, Neil!"
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In the movie, Neil says that he met everyone in Sex Bob-Omb in high school, but according to [https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Bryan_Lee_O%27Malley Bryan Lee O'Malley], his sister was Stills' former roommate and moved to another town to pursue continued education. It was then that Neil became Steven's new roommate. [1]
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== Apparel ==
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Young Neil's clothing style is similar to Scott's, as he is often wearing T-shirts with references on them such as the names of different bands. He also seems to share Scott's interest in games; He regularly plays a Nintendo DS and in Volume 6 Scott has just bought a handheld game console from him (which highly resembles a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSP_Go PSP Go] ) which Scott seems very impressed with. He also plays the arcade game "Time Critics" at [[Chaos Theatre]].
   
 
==The Name==
 
==The Name==
Neil's moniker "Young Neil" is naturally a play on of the name of the renowned Canadian musician and singer "Neil Young." One group Neil was a part of in his beginning was Buffalo Springfield. One of the members of Buffalo Springfield was Stephen Stills for whom [[Stephen Stills|the character of the same name exists in the series]]. As Buffalo Springfield began to decline, Neil Young took it upon himself to go solo and sky rocketed immediately. One of the few people he took with him was Stephen Stills who became his backup for a time, and the two even launched an album together, "Long May You Run," as "The Stills-Young Band." They are also still playing together from time to time in the band Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (sometimes referred to as just "Crosby, Stills & Nash" since Neil Young sometimes collaborates with them when they play music together in the group, and sometimes he doesn't). Neil Young has been a huge influence on a variety of artists to this day including Nirvana's Kurt Cobain.
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Neil's moniker "Young Neil" is naturally a play on of the name of the renowned Canadian musician and singer "Neil Young." One group Neil was a part of in his beginning was Buffalo Springfield. One of the members of Buffalo Springfield was Stephen Stills for whom [[Stephen Stills|the character of the same name exists in the series]]. As Buffalo Springfield began to decline, Neil Young took it upon himself to go solo and skyrocketed immediately.
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One of the few people he took with him was Stephen Stills who became his backup for a time, and the two even launched an album together, "Long May You Run", as "The Stills-Young Band". They are also still playing together from time to time in the band Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (sometimes referred to as just "Crosby, Stills & Nash" since Neil Young sometimes collaborates with them when they play music together in the group, and sometimes he doesn't). Neil Young has been a huge influence on a variety of artists to this day including Nirvana's Kurt Cobain.
   
 
Reversing the name, we get "Young Neil" who seems to have the opposite influence throughout the series, he's the original groupie for [[Sex Bob-omb]], meek, carries no musical influence or prowess as far as we can tell, and [[Stephen Stills]] is viewed as "the talent" rather than him. He is Sex Bob-omb's biggest fan until [[Knives]] comes along.
 
Reversing the name, we get "Young Neil" who seems to have the opposite influence throughout the series, he's the original groupie for [[Sex Bob-omb]], meek, carries no musical influence or prowess as far as we can tell, and [[Stephen Stills]] is viewed as "the talent" rather than him. He is Sex Bob-omb's biggest fan until [[Knives]] comes along.
   
==In ''vs. the World''==
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==Portrayal in Adaptions==
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=== In ''vs. the World'' ===
 
[[File:Young Neil.jpg|thumb|Johnny Simmons as Young Neil|150px]][[File:Sex Bob-omb with Young Neil.png|thumb|150px|Sex Bob-omb with Young Neil on the bass.]] Young Neil is played by [[Johnny Simmons]], whose previous works include ''Jennifer's Body'', ''Hotel for Dogs'', and ''Evan Almighty''.
 
[[File:Young Neil.jpg|thumb|Johnny Simmons as Young Neil|150px]][[File:Sex Bob-omb with Young Neil.png|thumb|150px|Sex Bob-omb with Young Neil on the bass.]] Young Neil is played by [[Johnny Simmons]], whose previous works include ''Jennifer's Body'', ''Hotel for Dogs'', and ''Evan Almighty''.
   
In the Movie, Young Neil is a kind of roadie/fanboy to [[Sex Bob-omb]], going to rehearsals and hanging out with the band despite not actually being in it. Neil strives to be just like [[Scott]] as he often repeats what Scott says, dresses in similar ways to Scott, knows how to play bass exactly like Scott, and ends up dating [[Knives]] just like Scott did. When [[Gideon]] wants to sponsor Sex Bob-omb, Scott refuses and leaves the band, and Neil takes his position and his bass (but ends up just getting a new one that is black and similar to the old one), officially becoming Sex Bob-Omb's new bass player. In Scott's second life he apologizes to all the members of the band and Scott tells Young Neil that the band sounds better with him on bass, and that from this day on he will be known as ... "Neil". Similar to Kim and Stephen Stills, Young Neil has a somewhat weak friendship with Scott before the scene in the Chaos Theater.<br clear="right"/>
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In the Movie, Young Neil is a kind of roadie/fanboy to [[Sex Bob-omb]], going to rehearsals and hanging out with the band despite not actually being in it. Neil strives to be just like [[Scott]] as he often repeats what Scott says, dresses in similar ways to Scott, knows how to play bass exactly like Scott, and ends up dating [[Knives]] just like Scott did. When [[Gideon]] wants to sponsor Sex Bob-omb, Scott refuses and leaves the band, and Neil takes his position and his bass (but ends up just getting a new one that is black and similar to the old one), officially becoming Sex Bob-Omb's new bass player. In Scott's second life he apologizes to all the members of the band and Scott tells Young Neil that the band sounds better with him on bass and that from this day on he will be known as ... "Neil". Similar to [[Kim Pine|Kim]] and [[Stephen Stills]], Young Neil has a somewhat weak friendship with Scott before the scene in the Chaos Theatre.<br clear="right"/>
   
==In the Game==
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=== In the Game ===
[[File:Neil and Wallace.png|thumb|Young Neil in the Game with Wallace.]]Young Neil appears in [[the Game]] as a background character and the shop owner in [[Leo's Place]] Stand in [[World 3]].
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[[File:Neil and Wallace.png|thumb|Young Neil in the Game with [[Wallace]].]]Young Neil appears in [[the Game]] as a background character and the shop owner in [[Leo's Place]] Stand in [[World 3]].
   
 
==Trivia==
 
==Trivia==
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*In the movie, Neil's last name is never mentioned. It is only seen when [[Knives Chau]] texts him asking to meet up.
 
*In the movie, Neil's last name is never mentioned. It is only seen when [[Knives Chau]] texts him asking to meet up.
 
*As revealed in the color edition of <i>[[Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life]]</i>, Neil was supposed to be 9 years old at first – in other words, truly "the young one". But [[Bryan Lee O'Malley]] scrapped this idea, and the concept of "one of the characters being a little kid" was instead applied to [[Trasha Ha|Trasha]], in a way he found more interesting.
 
*As revealed in the color edition of <i>[[Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life]]</i>, Neil was supposed to be 9 years old at first – in other words, truly "the young one". But [[Bryan Lee O'Malley]] scrapped this idea, and the concept of "one of the characters being a little kid" was instead applied to [[Trasha Ha|Trasha]], in a way he found more interesting.
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*Bryan Lee O'Malley has explained that Neil, appearance-wise, is based on his friend Jacob from when he was 19 years old.
 
*According to early notes, Neil is about an inch taller than Scott (same height as [[Stephen Stills]]).
 
*According to early notes, Neil is about an inch taller than Scott (same height as [[Stephen Stills]]).
*What Neil is reading on his computer in volume 1 after the gang have met Knives Chau for the first time is the webcomic Achewood.<ref>http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/post/29844224148/bryan-i-just-got-my-pretty-new-color-scott-pilgrim</ref>
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*Neil is reading the webcomic ''Achewood'' on his computer (in [https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Scott_Pilgrim%27s_Precious_Little_Life Volume 1]) after the gang had met Knives Chau for the first time.<ref>http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/post/29844224148/bryan-i-just-got-my-pretty-new-color-scott-pilgrim</ref>
*Originally, Neil was supposed to get a new "quirky, cute, papiermâché-dolphin-making girlfriend" named Eleanor, who was going to appear in volume 5, but she was scrapped from the story later.<ref>http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/post/48725341488/can-you-please-tell-us-more-about-neil-and-his#notes</ref>
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*Originally, Neil was supposed to get a new "quirky, cute, papiermâché-dolphin-making girlfriend" who was going to appear in volume 5, but she was scrapped from the story later.<ref>http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/post/48725341488/can-you-please-tell-us-more-about-neil-and-his#notes</ref> She had short hair, wore colored contacts, and tried putting makeup on Neil, but it was "too terrifying". Sketches show that Neil supposedly had longer, side-swept bangs at that point. On Bryan Lee O'Malley's Tumblr he referred to the girlfriend as "Eleanor", but in the notes appearing in the color edition of [https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Scott_Pilgrim_vs._the_Universe Volume 5], she is called Lainey. Whether Lainey is a nickname or Eleanor was just another name he considered is unknown.
*His birthday is in February.<ref>http://radiomaru.tumblr.com/tagged/ask/page/24</ref>
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==References==
 
==References==
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Young Neil
"Young" Neil Nordegraf
Young neil
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Age

20 (21 in Volume 6)[1]

Occupation

Family

Steph Nordegraf (sister)

Relationship

Formerly with Knives Chau

Fun Fact

He Just lives somewhere

"Young" Neil Nordegraf is referred to for the first time in Volume 6, as Neil, when Scott introduces Neil to Stacey Pilgrim (they did not know each other before, despite the fact that both of them aided Scott in his battle with Matthew Patel and they were also both at Lisa Miller's farewell party). It is the greatest day of his life. It is implied that Neil negatively acquainted the moniker "young". It also can be viewed as the end of his dickish attitude, referenced in Volume 5, "I'm young, I'll grow out of it" when called an asshole by Ramona

He is Stephen Stills' twenty-year-old roommate and briefly dates Knives Chau (from volume 3 to volume 4). He has a sister, Steph Nordegraf, who played bongos and the viola in Scott's old band, Kid Chameleon.

Personality and traits Edit

He is very quiet and is most often seen just observing the dialogue of his friends and the events around him. While generally easy-going, during Sex Bob-omb's extended recording in Scott Pilgrim vs. the Universe he becomes angry at how isolated he has become from his friends and later becomes bitter and sullen, taking up smoking.  

Relationships Edit

Knives Chau Edit

Knives admitted to Neil she was really only dating him because he looked like Scott. Neil seems more interested in her than she is, as he expressed the desire to make out with her at one point while Knives was indifferent. Though Knives appeared to appreciate his support when she was hurt by Envy Adams and said: "I'll be fine, Neil's here." It is implied by Knives that they broke up twice. Neil also seems to like Chinese girls since when he first heard that Scott was dating a Chinese girl, he commented "That's wicked!" and is seen in the company of another Asian girl after his break-up with Knives. After the end of Scott's relationship with Ramona, Neil attends the same party as Scott and when Scott learns Envy Adams is there, Neil suggests that Scott should "preemptively be a dick to her". This is, however, a brutal failure, and Neil abashedly witnesses the result.

Stephen Stills Edit

Stephen's and Neil's relationship seems to work out initially, but Stephen Stills gets angry at Young Neil when he starts dating Knives Chau (even suggesting the rest of them take him out back and beat him up) and it is unknown whether they stayed roommates following the ending of the series.

Sex Bob-Omb's #1 Fan Edit

It is shown that he takes great pride in being Sex Bob-omb's number 1 fan in book one.

Kim said Knives was their number 1 fan. Neil quickly stands up, whimpers, tears up and runs off crying. To which Kim yells "Other than you, Neil!"

In the movie, Neil says that he met everyone in Sex Bob-Omb in high school, but according to Bryan Lee O'Malley, his sister was Stills' former roommate and moved to another town to pursue continued education. It was then that Neil became Steven's new roommate. [1]

Apparel Edit

Young Neil's clothing style is similar to Scott's, as he is often wearing T-shirts with references on them such as the names of different bands. He also seems to share Scott's interest in games; He regularly plays a Nintendo DS and in Volume 6 Scott has just bought a handheld game console from him (which highly resembles a PSP Go ) which Scott seems very impressed with. He also plays the arcade game "Time Critics" at Chaos Theatre.

The NameEdit

Neil's moniker "Young Neil" is naturally a play on of the name of the renowned Canadian musician and singer "Neil Young." One group Neil was a part of in his beginning was Buffalo Springfield. One of the members of Buffalo Springfield was Stephen Stills for whom the character of the same name exists in the series. As Buffalo Springfield began to decline, Neil Young took it upon himself to go solo and skyrocketed immediately.

One of the few people he took with him was Stephen Stills who became his backup for a time, and the two even launched an album together, "Long May You Run", as "The Stills-Young Band". They are also still playing together from time to time in the band Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (sometimes referred to as just "Crosby, Stills & Nash" since Neil Young sometimes collaborates with them when they play music together in the group, and sometimes he doesn't). Neil Young has been a huge influence on a variety of artists to this day including Nirvana's Kurt Cobain.

Reversing the name, we get "Young Neil" who seems to have the opposite influence throughout the series, he's the original groupie for Sex Bob-omb, meek, carries no musical influence or prowess as far as we can tell, and Stephen Stills is viewed as "the talent" rather than him. He is Sex Bob-omb's biggest fan until Knives comes along.

Portrayal in AdaptionsEdit

In vs. the World Edit

Young Neil

Johnny Simmons as Young Neil

Sex Bob-omb with Young Neil

Sex Bob-omb with Young Neil on the bass.

Young Neil is played by Johnny Simmons, whose previous works include Jennifer's Body, Hotel for Dogs, and Evan Almighty.

In the Movie, Young Neil is a kind of roadie/fanboy to Sex Bob-omb, going to rehearsals and hanging out with the band despite not actually being in it. Neil strives to be just like Scott as he often repeats what Scott says, dresses in similar ways to Scott, knows how to play bass exactly like Scott, and ends up dating Knives just like Scott did. When Gideon wants to sponsor Sex Bob-omb, Scott refuses and leaves the band, and Neil takes his position and his bass (but ends up just getting a new one that is black and similar to the old one), officially becoming Sex Bob-Omb's new bass player. In Scott's second life he apologizes to all the members of the band and Scott tells Young Neil that the band sounds better with him on bass and that from this day on he will be known as ... "Neil". Similar to Kim and Stephen Stills, Young Neil has a somewhat weak friendship with Scott before the scene in the Chaos Theatre.

In the Game Edit

Neil and Wallace

Young Neil in the Game with Wallace.

Young Neil appears in the Game as a background character and the shop owner in Leo's Place Stand in World 3.

TriviaEdit

  • In Scott Pilgrim Gets it Together, Neil can be seen wearing a shirt with the Deathly Hallows symbol from the Harry Potter series.[2]
  • In the movie, Neil's last name is never mentioned. It is only seen when Knives Chau texts him asking to meet up.
  • As revealed in the color edition of Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life, Neil was supposed to be 9 years old at first – in other words, truly "the young one". But Bryan Lee O'Malley scrapped this idea, and the concept of "one of the characters being a little kid" was instead applied to Trasha, in a way he found more interesting.
  • Bryan Lee O'Malley has explained that Neil, appearance-wise, is based on his friend Jacob from when he was 19 years old.
  • According to early notes, Neil is about an inch taller than Scott (same height as Stephen Stills).
  • Neil is reading the webcomic Achewood on his computer (in Volume 1) after the gang had met Knives Chau for the first time.[3]
  • Originally, Neil was supposed to get a new "quirky, cute, papiermâché-dolphin-making girlfriend" who was going to appear in volume 5, but she was scrapped from the story later.[4] She had short hair, wore colored contacts, and tried putting makeup on Neil, but it was "too terrifying". Sketches show that Neil supposedly had longer, side-swept bangs at that point. On Bryan Lee O'Malley's Tumblr he referred to the girlfriend as "Eleanor", but in the notes appearing in the color edition of Volume 5, she is called Lainey. Whether Lainey is a nickname or Eleanor was just another name he considered is unknown.
  • His birthday is in February.[1]

ReferencesEdit

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